The seller acquired the car in April 2021, and subsequent work is said to have included installation of a Bluetooth-capable stereo, performing an alignment, servicing of the power steering system, and replacement of the shocks and tires. This was the era prior to the Federal environmental and safety regulations taking effect. I wanted to see how things were put together. The outside air now came through the hood scoops and directly into the air cleaner. 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I agree with both of the above comments 100%. FASTEST TOP SPEED OF ANY PRODUCTION MUSCLE CAR( Disclosure4), 3) Porsche 911 3.0 Carrera RS 109 built. would any one by chance have a pic of the ballancers they used or diameter, I havent checked cam but its got flat tops and the right size valves,currently have the#6 heads all re built and on my 72 cutlass 355. what do you think is this a w-31 ballancer ? Additions by the seller include a Custom Sport steering wheel and hub, a 7k-rpm tachometer with an inset clock, a woodgrain dash bezel and ash tray cover, and rear package shelf trim. Then in 1971, GM mandated a decree that said there had to be crush zones built into the fenders, so from 1971-1972, all fenders have built-in crush zones. Celebrating the 100,000th Bring a Trailer Auction! The statistic that I uncovered was that there were 1,029 hardtops (Holiday Coupe) produced, the balance (200+) were post coupes or Sports Coupes in Olds lingo. 1970 f85 w31 the car has everything a w31 has except carb intake and harmonic balancer has edelbrock carb and intake on it now and its a automatic trans which was rare only 52 made and its correct for a w31 car has matching number block but has 71 heads on it car needs some . The highlight, of course, is the numbers matching, factory . You've really got to know what you're looking at. Attempting to connect. The body was refinished in its factory shade of Nugget Gold Metallic (53) during prior ownership in 1984 according to the seller, and photos of paint meter readings are provided in the gallery below along with close-up photos depicting the paint and trim. If he is authenticating a 1970 model and the fender doesn't look like this, that means it has been replaced for some reason, and an owner's claim of "all original sheetmetal" goes out the window. The body panels, however, appear to be free of crash damage so thats encouraging. This month, we've stumbled onto a very special Oldsmobile that was meant to throw the insurance man a curve. Oldsmobile got into the act too in 1969 with their 350 CI powered, W31 Oldsmobile Cutlass. Its a nightmare. The biggest thing on any 1968 to 1970 W-31 and a dead giveaway to the car's pedigree is a dual fuel line just like a regular Cutlass equipped with air conditioning. It's kind of hard to explain, but it's easy to tell if one of these cars ever got into an accident. Learn how your comment data is processed. With the most numb handling, predictable performance, suspension with no connection to the road and without raising an eyebrow of passers-by due to its ubiquitous jellybean style. Your real-time updates could not be connected. That's part of how they advertised it.". Sort of like Woodstock, a big experiment. Location: On plate attached to top left dash board. That's why, in 2013, he noticed a post on the classicoldsmobile.com forum from Andy Wenz of Cleveland. Tune in as we explore this one-of-160-built F85-based Rallye 350! Factory Tach doesnt appear to be missing, where would it go? "History really makes these cars become that much more interesting," Jimmy says. Minore: I go from the top to the bottom to the best of my knowledge working with the references that I have. 50 years of rust hiding who knows where, may sink a sale, upon close up inspection. Performance & security by Cloudflare. inch block. All W-31 engines were select fit, simply meaning that they were blueprinted from the factory. It said "W-30" right on it, but the number listed at the top was not the VIN. Powered by Invision Community. Hopefully a prospective buyer can negotiate a somewhat lower price. I'm 40 years old. Jimmy is a mile deep in knowledge and an inch wide in focus. I go through the block and look at the Julian codes, heads, and intake manifold if it's not a W-30. Minore points out the flat ridge found only on the fenders of 1970 Oldsmobiles. As 19sixty5 suggests that this car looks more like 149K vs. 49K. There is no photo of the drivers side of the car so perhaps there is more of a problem there. The Ramrod 350 Cutlass appeared in 1968 and became the W31 in 1969. The BaT Service Fee is 5% of the bid, with a minimum of $250 up to a maximum of $5,000. :) :) :). I see it is from the rust belt, but the rust seems fairly severe for 49k miles. For those hardcore Oldsmobile W-Series collectors, they will know what a truly special car this is, more specifically, the engine. These models were equipped with the Hurst/Olds 455 package. Fortran FAQ.Com. At that point I asked the owner if he had any paperwork and he said yes. On a true four-speed car, you'll see the slag on the edges of the opening. That is the color most chosen by Camry buyers during its entire production run, rumor has it. Rated to produce 325 horsepower when new, the 350ci V8 featured an exclusive camshaft and connecting rods in W-31 trim as well as a Rochester Quadrajet carburetor, an aluminum intake manifold, and a low-restriction air cleaner assembly. Visible through the windshield. Oldsmobile had beat out both Pontiac and Plymouth to be the number 3 best selling brand in the U.S. behind Chevrolet and Ford. Its why its so hard for me to pay the crazy numbers they want now. Sitting in the passenger seat, peering out over that ram-air hood, I was totally corrupted and have been ever since.". Must be something different.Thanks for all the info. This car is way overpriced, by the time you bring it back to life you will have well over $50,000 invested. It boils down to the fact Oldsmobile product planners toed the corporate line restricting engine displacement to 330 cubic inches. After all the rust and grime are cleaned away, it's much harder to authenticate. Sitting at the top of our list is the Porsche Cayenne with an impressive 84.2% retained retail value after three years. 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass 325 Horsepower @ 5,400 rpm 360-lb.ft. Pulling off the sheet revealed a Twilight Blue W-31 that Jimmy marveled was "original and hadn't been touched in years," right down to the original Goodyear Polyglas tires on stock rims. The engine was not offered after 1971. In 1968, a full 52 percent of America's population was under the age of 25. A full-size spare wheel with a Goodyear tire is located in the trunk. Equipment includes a fiberglass dual-inlet hood, sport mirrors, black accent stripes, and W-31 badging. I think for under 10k worth of work you could have a really nice ride that would be a blast to drive and just be seen in!! By 1970, the insurance industry was losing money and began a clampdown. There is quite a bit of metalwork required from what you can see, wait until you begin to peel back the onion. This signifies an Olds 442 model. Reconnected! Many would say that the brand picked up an image of being old and stuffy. The ad does not state which 4-Speed was offered, M-20 or M-21. Email: contact@drivinithome.com. Your daily digest of everything happening on the site. The factory chalk marks aren't usually there anymore. (faster than 130). 1962 Chevrolet Corvette4 days$33,750Bid Now, 1978 Chevrolet Corvette5 days$2,100Bid Now, 1971 Lincoln Continental Mark III6 days$2,750Bid Now, 1961 Volkswagen Samba Deluxe 23-Window8 days$100Bid Now. Just 500 were made, all four-speeds. When Jimmy arrived at Andy's garage, instead of walking directly to look under the sheet covering the car, he made a beeline for a washing machine covered with car parts and paperwork. Welcome to Drivin' It Home, please email us if you have any questions. A complete interior is going to cost a minimum of $2500 by itself. The Rochester Quadrajet, PN 7040255 and specific to the W-31 automatic and manual transmission cars, is very valuable. I helped a friend swap out the one in his 67 442 using a curb in a suburban neighborhood, serving as a ramp, for under-car access. MCR: What are the areas you look at when authenticating a car? That really helps when you're putting one of these cars back together. Become a member to add images to your comments. The TH350 transmission was very special on this cars and is known as a JO coded unit. LOL Seriously, though, having driven my girlfriends 2003 loaded Camry all over the country I can say without a doubt they routinely get you from point A to B without issue. The BMW S85 is a naturally aspirated V10 petrol engine which replaced the BMW S62 V8 engine in the M5 model and was produced from 20052010. You're the high bidder. There were 165 3rd Gen sold in the last 5 years. It was introduced as an option package for F-85 and Cutlass models sold in the United States beginning with the 1964 model year. These are some of the most sought after muscle cars, by collectors and enthusiasts alike. . There really is no book that I can pull out and unequivocally say this is the way it was done. Contact Us - DO NOT EMAIL CAR QUESTIONS. But what, exactly, was this car other than a Cutlass S two-door hardtop with a 350 under the striped hood? The seller states, The original motor starts up and runs good. The 1970 W-30 featured a 455 cubic inch 370 HP engine. I would go to people I had sold parts to and ask, 'You own a 1970 4-4-2 don't you? ClarkeCutlass and 4-4-2: Muscle Portfolio 1964-1974 by R.M. Why no drivers side pics? This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. A couple of years ago I drove out to New Jersey to authenticate a couple of cars for a client in California. These models were equipped with the 442 package (only on Cutlass Supreme). By My inspection would be an all-day affair, so the fee would be in the neighborhood of $1,000. . This Cutlass S W-31 is now offered with a broadcast sheet, a Protect-O-Plate, owners manuals, an ownership summary, and a clean Colorado title in the sellers name. This difference in philosophy between the two manufacturers can be directly felt first on the reliability of the vehicles. Vehicles with Similar 21.55 HP/Weight Ratio Just picked up a 65 dodge dart from the original owner, 32000 miles on it. An original 1970 W-30 car like the one I authenticated in Chicago [Beth Bimbi's Oldsmobile, "Mom's W-30," Feb. '16] is easy to authenticate. Curb weight is 3,342 lbs. (Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads). The Antique Automobile Club of America defines the Muscle Car Era as between 1961 and 1974, a wider range than many muscle car enthusiasts recognize. When Oldsmobile did its four-speed conversions on-line [1970-'72], it just cut out the floor with a torch! The Oldsmobile Cutlass first came on the scene as a 1961 1/2 model. I ended up buying that car, and that's what got the ball rolling with my research on the W-31s. Engine upgrades included the use of what's become known as the 308 camshaft, which was actually the unit's duration; the camshaft also touted .474-inch lift and an intake/exhaust valve overlap of 82 degrees. W-31 fender emblems. production date code (month/day), and a suffix code which identifies the engine. He can be reached by email at casamperformance@sbcglobal.net. The G is the application key; for 1970 this trans would have been used in 4-4-2, W-32, or SX, but not a W-30. The Porsche 911 GT3 is one of the highest performing sports cars in the 911 lineup and is designed primarily for ultimate track performance. I have pictures of the cars that I actually took apart and took photographs of and can tell within two seconds whether the VIN is right because I have examined so many cars.